Pope Francis still remembers his meeting with a former prostitute who had suffered much.
In a new interview, the Pope recalled the time he met with a young
pregnant woman from Africa who was “beautiful, young (and) exploited.”
In telling her story, the woman said she was forced to work until she
was nine months pregnant.
She ended up giving birth “in the winter on
the street. Alone. By myself,” Francis recalled her saying.
Her newborn daughter, exposed to the cold, died.
This added to the woman’s suffering.
“They made her work until that day, because if she didn’t bring the
exploiters much, she was beaten, even tortured,” the Pope said. He
recalled that another woman he met in the community had her ear cut off
because she didn’t bring enough money back for her traffickers.
Pope Francis said that when he heard these stories, he didn’t just
think of the exploiters, but also the clients. “Do they not know that
with that money, to take off for sexual satisfaction, they helped the
exploiters?” he asked.
His meeting with the ex-prostitutes happened in an Aug. 12 visit to
women rescued from forced prostitution and under the care of the Pope
John XXIII Community in Rome.
The Pope recounted the meeting in an interview with TV2000 published
Sunday, Nov. 20 to coincide with the end of the Catholic Church’s Year
of Mercy.
During the Year of Mercy, the pontiff had made a habit of “Mercy
Friday” encounters with others. He told interviewers his meeting with
rescued ex-prostitutes had a particular impact on him.
For the Pope, another particularly striking encounter was the day he
went to visit people at the beginning and at the end of life, when he
traveled to a residence for the terminally ill, as well as to a neonatal
unit of Rome’s San Giovanni hospital.
When he arrived at the maternity ward of the hospital, the Pope
recalled seeing a mother “who cried and cried and cried in front of her
two twins.” She originally had three babies, but one of them had died.
“She cried for her dead son, while caressing the other two,” the Pope
said, explaining that his mind immediately turned to the attitude of
some who “send away” their children before birth.
This is a “horrible crime,” he said, recounting false justifications
for abortion: “they send them away because ‘it’s better like this,’
because you are more comfortable, it’s ‘a big responsibility’.” He again
stressed that this is “a serious sin.”
Despite still having her other two children, the woman “cried for the one who died, unable to be consoled,” he said.
He added that these visits stayed on his mind.
Pope Francis' 40-minute video interview with journalists Paolo
Ruffini and Lucio Brunelli of TV2000 touched on a variety of topics,
including the fruits of the Jubilee of Mercy, papal temptations, the
importance of having a good sense of humor and how he deals with stress.
He said the Year of Mercy’s celebration in every diocese of the world universalized it.
“It was the entire Church who lived this Jubilee, it was like a
Jubilee atmosphere,” he said, noting how he heard news from dioceses
around the world telling stories of people drawing closer to the Church
and strengthening their personal encounter with Jesus.
The Jubilee, he said, was “a blessing from the Lord” and “a great
step forward.” He credited his predecessors Bl. Paul VI, who began the
Jubilee Year tradition, and St. John Paul II, “who put a very strong
accent on mercy.”
“It planted a lot of seeds,” he said, crediting spiritual growth to God.
“I think that the Lord will grow good things, simple, daily, in the lives of people,” rather than through spectacles, he said.
When asked about a comment he had made saying “the human attitude
closest to divine grace is humor,” Francis said having a good sense of
humor is a grace that he asks for every day.
He said he prays the same prayer of St. Thomas More: “Give me, Lord, a
sense of humor,” so that he “knows how to laugh ahead of a fight.” A
good sense of humor “lifts you,” he said, and allows you to see things
with a renewed perspective.
The Pope also cautioned against having an attitude of rigidity, as
well as an attitude of hypocrisy. Pointing to the Sermon on the Mount
from the Gospels, Francis noted that it ends with Jesus saying “be
merciful like the Father,” which was the theme of the Jubilee.
God’s justice and mercy were intertwined, he explained.
“It doesn’t say: be just like the Father,” he noted, but stressed
that “it’s the same! The justice and mercy of God are one thing. Mercy
is justice and justice is mercy. And they cannot be separated.”
Another interview topic was the temptations a Pope faces. Francis
said they are “the temptations of any person, of any man,” according to
the weakness of their own personality.
The devil always uses these weaknesses to enter, he said, naming
impatience, egoism and “a bit of laziness” as examples. The saints were
also tempted, but went to Jesus and placed their trust in him for help.
Pope Francis was also asked what bothered him most: the insults of his critics versus the false admiration of flatterers.
His immediate response was “the second. I am allergic to flatterers. I
have an allergy.” This allergy “comes to me naturally,” he said,
because “to flatter another is to use the person for a purpose...to get
something for oneself.”
On the topic of stress, the Pope said that even though he frequently
feels tired, he has a way to keep his stress level down: “I pray: that
helps me a lot.”
Celebrating Mass, praying the rosary and the Liturgy of
the Hours as well as simply speaking freely with the Lord are all
things the Pope said help him to stay calm and balanced.
The Pope has another way to relive stress. “I sleep well,” he said, deeming this “a grace from the Lord.”
“I sleep like a log,” he said.
Francis confessed that he has his aches and pains like everyone else,
such as his sciatica, but sleeping well helps with his health.
The interview then turned to various conflicts throughout the world.
The Pope considered how the virtue of mercy could be lived better at the
political level among States.
In response, Francis again spoke against the arms trade and drug
trafficking. He repeated his previous references to a piecemeal “Third
World War” underway throughout the world.
He said the world needs a
heightened sense of tenderness capable of “caressing the flesh of the
suffering Christ” to overcome this violence.