The interview is part of a series of reflections in a book being published this week in Italian titled In Viaggio (On a Trip), about Francis’s pilgrimages since becoming Pontiff in 2013 to Asia, North and South America and Africa.
In Europe, he has made quick trips to Lesbos, Greece, and Lampedusa, Sicily, places hosting migrants rescued at sea.
He said that he told his security detail from the start that he’d refuse closed, bulletproof Popemobiles because he’ll only travel if he can have human contact.