The Catholic Archbishop of Dublin, Dr Diarmuid Martin, has said he believes church authorities tried to extend the indemnity deal done with the Government to include survivors of child abuse from day schools. Speaking on RTÉ's Six-One News, Dr Martin also said he would like to see independent verification to ensure that promises made by religious orders were met.
Dr Martin said this process should be objective and external.
Reacting to today's march of abuse survivors, Archbishop Martin said it was the victims' day and he was delighted for them.
Archbishop Sean Brady has said the Irish Bishops Conference is ashamed, humbled and repentant that members of the clergy and other religious strayed so far from their Christian ideals in abusing children as highlighted by the Ryan Commission Report.
Archbishop Brady said the bishops have invited survivors to engage with the church to see how they can assist those who have been abused.
He was speaking after the summer general meeting of the Irish Bishops Conference.
It runs from 6pm to 10pm, Wednesday to Sunday.
A separate 24-hour service is also being run by the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre on 1800 77 88 88.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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It is quite pathetic to see Archbishop Diarmuid Martin on the tv news with QUIVERING bottom lip he is so upset by the Clerical Abuse.
ReplyDeleteThat is a bit hypocritical to say the least when he knows for a fact there are today bully Parish Priests in local Churches in the Dublin Diocese psychologically abusing and bullying Parishioners in his care and His Grace knows the full story and does not give a fig.
We all know there are ALL KINDS OF ABUSE physical, psychological etc. each of which are EQUALLY damaging to those at the receiving end and it hurts the VICTIM just as much and DAMAGES THE CHURCH.
It is the old story, cover ups, hide the guilty abusing bullies, no care for the abused, let the boys with the robes and Roman collars carry on.
It is enough to make a pig sick to see the sheer disregard for those continuing to be abused by the Clergy. Nobody will ever get justice from the most corrupt organisation in the world where each man is just concerned with saving his own skin.
We think there are going to be no shortage of volunteers in the next life who want to spend eternity basting with oil these rotten men on fire spits in HELL. It is the only possible justice for the lot of them because we will get no justice in this life while we are still living and fighting for justice.
Mull over that Your Grace and don't bother with the QUIVERING bottom lip it is as pathetic as the empty words that you would stand for justice in the Dublin Diocese when you conned us all those years ago on your arrival as Archbishop of Dublin. What a sad day for the Diocese. Just another person to carry on the betrayal of those in the Church.
You cannot buy forgivenss with money. Money means nothing. The dignity of the person is what matters and you have stolen that from so many.
The news last night showed the first monument in USA to Clerical abuse A MILLSTONE WITH A CHAIN - that is what should be tied around the necks of all the abusers and Parish Priests and they should be cast into the sea from the cross at the top of Bray Head - the most fitting place in the Dublin Diocese!
Just watched the TV3 programme Sins of the Fathers about Clerical Abuse in Dublin Diocese. This only gave a very small sample of less than a handful of abused and goes to show once again the utter contempt of the Clergy towards those they abuse.
ReplyDeleteNothing has changed with the Church insuring itself against civil claims against the Clergy. They use the donations of the laity to pay the premiums for these insurance policies - making the laity pay in advance for compensation they may get when abused in the future.
The Church has not one redeeming feature left. It is a sick crime ridden corrupt organisation that stretches its clutches across the world to use and abuse society. We are no land of saints and scholars we are a land of perverts and abusers.
You don't need a Church to enter to pray to your God. You don't need these corrupt abusers to intercede with God for you. They are the last people in the world we should go near or trust. They are the worlds worst criminals.
Most criminals eventually own up to their crimes but those in the Catholic Church do not they cover up, hide, move on, use the law and every trick in the book to get away with their abuse, lies and corruption.
What good are the 60,000 documents that Archbishop Martin has decided to hand over. It is too little too late.
If a man goes to join the Priesthood now it should be assured he is another pervert until proved otherwise because what else is there to attract a man to the Priesthood only the fact he knows he will have THE POWER, the back up of a corrupt organisation to cover up anything he may do in the future.
Archbishop talks about GREY AREAS. He talks about turning over in bed at night and wondering if he has done the right thing. How can he actually go to bed at all. If he had a heart he would not be able to sleep because he ignores so much abuse around him by his wonderful Parish Priests.
It is too late to save face at this point in time. The rotten should be outed.
Thank God there are people out there who will stand up to their abusers and those higher up.
These red and purple hatted ones do not deserve any respect because they do not respect us the abused or give a damn about the daily trauma we live with.
Our Parish Priest and others are arrogant, will hold on to power at any cost. They are pig headed stubborn and will lie on Oath in court to protect themselves and have done so.
They talk about the laity snubbing confession. Why would we want to go to confess to a LIAR sitting in a wooden box who does not know the meaning of the word TRUTH!!!!!! Men who GOSSIP to others about things they are told in confidence. Men who took and broke VOWS.
May Archbishop Martin have many sleepless nights because your victims do not sleep much at night knowing that you do nothing to confront the abuse that is under your nose and that you still condone.
Archbishop Martin talking about repenting and not business as usual. That is a farce because it is business as usual in our corrupt Parish and others - nothing will change as long as the corrupt bully of a Parish Priests are left there to con everyone.
as reported on Indymedia today
ReplyDeleteChristian teaching
by paul o toole Tue Jun 16, 2009 17:09
If Christian Teaching tells us one thing, it is to Ignore corruption, turn the other cheek or is it a blind eye. The Church, without ONE priest standing out from the crowd to condemn the criminals are all subserviant to this criminality, typical of institutional culture herd mentality. The church has raised a bunch of cowardly followers, liken to sheep, of its own sense of power and place which is upheld and maintained by the lavish lifestyles afforded these so called shepherds and paid for by us, who know they could loose it all in a second if they speak out.
Should these paedophiles be forgiven, no, they should be convicted.
They should be given the rope and publicly hung and an example made that the next one who attempts to turn an innocent child into a petrified, shamed, terrified dinzen of a human for the duration of their life, will get the same.
Anyone who gives a child a lifetime of torment, self doubt, self harming, dysfunction, prone to alcoholism and drug addiction to cope with the trauma, and for the rest of his/her life carry the torment of this abuse, for one Catholic priests or Christian Brothers sexual gratification, ought to be castrated.
Their silence speaks volumes to us all.
Individually and collectively they have all betrayed this nation and should be shut down, disbanded, and if they should be alowed to exist at all they should Never be allowed to come near children.
Im actually against the death penalty, but in the case of paedophiles i make exceptions. If they were to be hanged, I for one would volunteer to do the hanging.