The prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline
of the Sacraments, Cardinal Antonio Canizares, recently explained to
CNA that Vatican II “was not at all a break” with the tradition of the
Church.The cardinal’s comments came in response to a question about the main obstacle preventing dialogue between the Holy See and the Society of St. Pius X.
In 2009, Pope Benedict XVI lifted the
excommunication against four bishops ordained in 1991 by Archbishop
Marcel Lefebvre, who died excommunicated.
The Lefebvrists have held since their founding that Vatican II was a
break with the Church’s tradition, and therefore they have rejected the
magisterium of every Pope beginning with John XXIII.
The Spanish cardinal said the main obstacle is that the Lefebvrists do not accept “that there has been no break at all with tradition; tradition continues to be alive and open, and Vatican II is (part of the) tradition.” Unity in the Church cannot be achieved by ignoring the council’s place in the Church’s tradition, he said.
Cardinal Canizares explained later that while he is unfamiliar with the specifics surrounding the dialogue with the Lefebvrists, “I do know one thing, which is that the Pope and the Church are very willing and have a great desire for there to be unity and for those who have left the Church to return to full communion.”
Society of St. Pius X
The Spanish cardinal said the main obstacle is that the Lefebvrists do not accept “that there has been no break at all with tradition; tradition continues to be alive and open, and Vatican II is (part of the) tradition.” Unity in the Church cannot be achieved by ignoring the council’s place in the Church’s tradition, he said.
Cardinal Canizares explained later that while he is unfamiliar with the specifics surrounding the dialogue with the Lefebvrists, “I do know one thing, which is that the Pope and the Church are very willing and have a great desire for there to be unity and for those who have left the Church to return to full communion.”
Society of St. Pius X
On July 5, after the Society of St. Pius X ordained 20 men to the
priesthood in Switzerland, Germany and the United Sates, Vatican
spokesman Father Federico Lombardi told CNA the ordinations were
illegitimate.
He reiterated what the Vatican said in 2009, “As long as
the Society does not have canonical status … its ministers do not
exercise a legitimate ministry in the Church.”
Fr. Lombardi added that
such status could not be defined “until doctrinal matters are
clarified.”
The lifting of the excommunication
The lifting of the excommunication
On January 24, 2009, Benedict XVI decided to lift the excommunication
imposed on four bishops ordained by Lefebvre: Bernard Fellay, the
current leader of the society, Richard Williamson, Alfonso de Galarreta
and Tissier de Mallerais.
On January 28, 2009, at the conclusion of his general audience, the Pope explained the decision to lift the excommunication as “an act of paternal compassion” and that it was made “because these Bishops repeatedly manifested their active suffering for the situation in which they had found themselves.
On January 28, 2009, at the conclusion of his general audience, the Pope explained the decision to lift the excommunication as “an act of paternal compassion” and that it was made “because these Bishops repeatedly manifested their active suffering for the situation in which they had found themselves.
“I hope that this gesture of mine will be followed by an earnest
commitment on their behalf to complete the necessary further steps to
achieve full communion with the Church, thus witnessing true fidelity
to, and true recognition of, the Magisterium and the authority of the
Pope and the Second Vatican Council,” he said.
The Vatican Secretary of State further clarified the extent of the Pope’s actions on February 4, 2009, and said the four bishops are obliged to grant “full recognition to the Second Vatican Council” and to the teachings of all the Popes since Pius XII.
The statement also required Bishop Richard Williamson to distance himself from the statements he previously made questioning the Holocaust, which were unknown to the Holy See at the time of the lifting of the excommunication.
The Vatican Secretary of State further clarified the extent of the Pope’s actions on February 4, 2009, and said the four bishops are obliged to grant “full recognition to the Second Vatican Council” and to the teachings of all the Popes since Pius XII.
The statement also required Bishop Richard Williamson to distance himself from the statements he previously made questioning the Holocaust, which were unknown to the Holy See at the time of the lifting of the excommunication.
“The remission of the excommunication has freed the four bishops from
a very serious canonical penalty, but it has not changed the juridical
status of the Society of Saint Pius X, which presently does not enjoy
any canonical recognition by the Catholic Church.
The four bishops, even
though they have been released from excommunication, have no canonical
function in the Church and do not licitly exercise any ministry within
it,” the statement said.
Lefebrivst rejection of the Pope’s outreach
Lefebrivst rejection of the Pope’s outreach
In January of 2010 Bishop Richard Williamson said the negotiations
between the Society of St. Pius X and the Vatican were “a conversation
between the deaf” that would never result in an agreement because the
positions of both sides were “absolutely irreconcilable.”
In February of 2011, Bishop Bernard Fellay confirmed Williamson’s opinion, and in an interview with members of the society in the United States he said that talks with the Holy See were unsuccessful in convincing Vatican officials that the Church needs to return to a state prior to Vatican II.
In February of 2011, Bishop Bernard Fellay confirmed Williamson’s opinion, and in an interview with members of the society in the United States he said that talks with the Holy See were unsuccessful in convincing Vatican officials that the Church needs to return to a state prior to Vatican II.
Fellay said the Holy See told them that "doctrinal problems exist
with the Society and that they must be clarified before canonical
recognition” can be granted.
Talk about boys in dresses behaving like children in the playground.
ReplyDeleteGood gracious, all the starving children in the world and these men in dresses having a pop at each other over excommunication etc.
Total nonsense.
Who would want to belong to the Catholic cult of Roma anyway with a past like this?
The pope has no authority, only what the sheeple give him.
Catholic religion is totally based on Paganism- even its churches are built on sacred druid sites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlmEBd7yobU&feature=related
http://one-evil.org/entities_organizations/evil_org_roman_cult.htm.
“The Roman Cult, also known as the Roman Catholic Cult of the Vatican was first officially founded in 1057 by chief pagan high priest of the cult of Magna Mater (Cybele) known as Gregory VII.
The Roman Cult has never been the legitimate leadership of the Catholic Church.
However, through a relentless campaign to seize and consolidate its power, this relatively small band of individuals now controls the destiny of over one billion good, Christian and ethical Catholics, who remained tricked into believing the legitimacy of the Roman Cult.
A brutal and bloody cult — involving child sacrifice, burning people alive (since 11th Century CE), demonic worship and absolute celibacy of its lowest priests — its epicenter for such evil being the giant Phrygianum atop Vatican Hill since the 2nd Century BCE.”
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/murderers.htm
For 1500 hundred years, the Christian Church systematically operated torture chambers throughout Europe.
Torture was the rule, not the exception.
Next to the Bible, the most influential and venerated book in Christian history was the Malleus Maleficarum (Hammer of Witches), which was a step-by-step tutorial in how to torture “witches’ and “sorcerers”.
The Christian Heaven may have been a vain folly but the Christian Hell was real enough. For more than a thousand years sadists in the uniform of Christ terrorised and brutalised a continent and then exported that terror to the four corners of the globe. The Church, which, with a satanic twist of humour, claimed to be the instrument of ‘Christ’s loving kindness’ , taught a brutalised and impoverished people new meanings to the words pain and suffering”..
The Pope is the ultimate owner of everything in the World. Treaty of 1213, Papal Bull of 1455 and 1492.
United States, Great Britain and the Vatican are corporations which are nothing but fictional entities which have been placed into our minds.