We here at CWI have now been cleared to carry the following information for publishing.In recent times, we became aware that a CENSORED over in the CENSORED was alleged to be having an ongoing 'relationship' with a female within his own diocese.
This necessitated our wish to investigate this matter, and so we began a tedious process which involved the gathering of facts as opposed to rumours et al.
Within a very short period of time, it was becoming obvious that there was indeed truth in the claims being made, and therefore, a request was made through CW only a matter of days ago seeking further information from those concerned about this matter.
Little did we expect the amount of information that literally flowed in to us here in CWI which we then passed to our investigator and legal representative for verification and clearance.
Thus, we now wish to state that the CENSORED concerned in relation to this matter is CENSORED, currently CENSORED of the CENSORED and it is well known that this CENSORED has been ongoing for a few years.
However, we do wish to state that this is not going to be another CENSORED saga as no funds are unaccounted for in the CENSORED, and there is no evidence of there being any child(ren) resulting from this CENSORED.
Perhaps it should also be noted that what is being stated here is that there is a CENSORED occurring here, and indeed it has been well noted that it certainly has gone beyond being platonic.
We await a response in relation to this matter despite our best efforts to obtain one from the CENSORED.
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Rob; amen. These pages have changed greatly of late, and hardly for the better, sadly. I imagine that your reason will be that the bishop is breaking celibacy? If so then that is indeed a serious matter. But the way it is being done, and the recent very tasteless illustrations that are scattered o recent pages give cause for concern re integrity.
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ReplyDeleteI guess you would prefer that these matters are hidden under the carpets like the rest of the rot in the Catholic Church?
It is time that all of the Clergy who break their own rules and the rules in Civil law are outed and named and shamed.
They have hidden behind their Roman collars when it suits them to wear them. At other times they like to blend in with casual clothes and Bertie style anorak so as not to draw attention to themselves so they can mix in company as Mr. and Mrs. Middleaged and nobody gives them a second glance.
Nobody is throwing stones but they throw enough at the laity and it is time that we threw some back at them.
They have the remedy in their own hands. If they signed up for life to follow a particular lifestyle and took a vow to do so they should if they then change their minds do the honourable thing and quit, leave, walk out, disappear, just go.
There are lots of other things these men could be doing as married or co-habiting men with their religious training and education they have been given by the Church. They don't have to stay and live a lie and con all those around them while casting stones at the separated, homosexual and others as if they were not worthy when they are no longer worthy to hide behind the collar when they have broken the vows they took on ordination.
It is preferable that these men at least choose adults to break their vows with and not do it by abusing children.
However it is time they stood up and were counted and not as I said at the start HIDE BEHIND THEIR ROMAN COLLARS THAT THEY ARE NO LONGER FIT TO WEAR.
How can they preach and look down on and give us all a hard time when they are not on the straight and narrow paths any longer themselves.
This we are sure will not be the first OUTING on this site and I for one congratulate the Reverend Fathers for doing so. I imagine if and when it happens for them, because who knows what temptations lie around anyone's corner, they would have the good grace to call it a day and quit the Church if the Church have not changed their rules in the meantime.
This site has quite a few men shaking in their shoes right now knowing their number will soon be up. The faster it comes around the better for those they have damaged. It won't undo the awful damage they have done but it will in some way compensate that they did not get away with their wrongdoings when the rest of us have to pay for minor offences in law and often have to pay for things we are unjustly accused of.
As they say the wheel turns slowly but it DOES TURN and I know of one person who is about to get their comeuppance in the coming months with God's grace and help and endless prayers from all and sundry to bring it about. AMEN.
Provided your information is well-founded, you are absolutely correct to publish it.
ReplyDeleteThe first 2 posters are displaying the type of attitude that has allowed the clerical child sex abuse scandal to continue for so long unchallenged by those whose responsibility it was to protect our children. We have learned to our shame that our hierarchy and the Vatican only respond to public exposure.
If this was the bishop's one night stand, I would feel we all fail from time to time and allowance should be made. But to continue in a relationship while maintaining the facade of being a cleric faithful to his calling shows such rank hypocrisy it must be confronted.
I congratulate you for taking on this painful and depressing task.
If our hierarchy were not so dysfunctional it would not be necessary, but their track record shows only too clearly that it is.
Every married couple makes a public vow of chastity (fidelity) when they exchange their commitment.
ReplyDeleteAs a priest, I have heard countless confessions of marital infidelities, some from the mouths of those who in public profess to have a "perfect marriage!" Yet I would not for a moment consider "outing" them and their infidelity to another living creature. Why then would anyone expect me to condone the publication of a priest/bishop's infidelity? (Criminal issues are an entirely different matter.)
There are still some Catholics who believe in an "ambushing God" Who lurks in the shadows for an opportunity to catch us in a moment of sin (especially sexual sin!) Some posters here sound as if they enjoy engaging/observing this same ambushing behavior, and almost wet themselves when it happens!
There is a difference between "privacy" and "secrecy." Let's not mistake one for the other in order to satisfy one's voyeuristic needs.
I doubt anyone is going to publish something like this about a BISHOP unless they have the true facts.
ReplyDeleteMost newspapers are usually threatened by the legal teams belong to the Church if they are hinting that they are going to publish things like this until the Church finally admits defeat and it is absolutely going to come out in the wider media and then the Church will do a lot of back pedalling and damage limitation.
This writer has information that newspapers have on file for quite some time now but to date have not published as they are afraid of being sued by the Church but it is getting closer to finally being revealed in the public domain and they are ready to roll with the information. They just have to be extra careful of being sued by these UNHOLY guys and have to take things slowly. Newsmen are frustrated when they have seen and heard evidence and cannot use it as soon as they get it. When it finally comes out it should be worth the wait!!
F. Bernardone even if he wanted to OUT anyone cannot if he heard it under the Seal of Confession not unless I am mistaken he wanted to be excommunicated if it could be proved because that is supposed to be a major rule in the Church. Under pain of death it used to be you could not confess anything told to you in confession, not even if a murderer came in and told you he had killed his next door neighbours and you were the only one who knew you could not tell the authorities.
ReplyDeleteThat is unlike other Priests who break all their vows, they gossip about confidential matters told to them, they have affairs, they do not serve the flock they were ordained to serve and many other things too numerous to mention yet they still keep their cosy job for life. In any other job in the land you would be fired. Why should they be protected with such privileges?
Why is lying on Oath in civil court acceptable by the Church because they believe their Canon Law overrules the truth, especially if the lie is told to protect themselves and their Church? One would think that the clergy would be more likely to tell the truth under such circumstances having taken an Oath but unfortunately that is not what I have witessed.
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ReplyDeleteI think Angry has hit the nail on the head and highlighted the main problem with this blog. When you first started you offered an alternative to the mainstream catholic media with some good balanced articles which were based in fact. In recent weeks however you have descended into farce and let us all down - how can it be "fun" to try and destroy someone's career with innuendo and how can serious issues like this be described as "spice" - very worrying!!
ReplyDeleteNever thought I would live to see the day but it has happened.
ReplyDeleteThe Indymedia site is constantly censored with posting deleted.
It has NOW happened on this site too.
ANGRY's comment has vanished.
Censorship is alive and well here too.
I therefore think its time to forget about further postings. It is no longer worth the effort if the freedom of speech has gone and promises are empty.