Wednesday, January 28, 2009

Parish In Bray (18)

The 2009 Church "HYPOCRITE OF THE YEAR AWARD" goes to this Parish Priest at Our Lady Queen of Peace Bray.

This morning at 10 a.m. Mass with a very sad face the Parish Priest said we should think of all those who have just heard they have lost their jobs and been laid off because it is a devastating time for them and their families etc. etc.

This coming from the award winner "Hypocrite of the Year" who caused this devastating time for the last three plus years to the former Parish Secretary who worked at Our Lady Queen of Peace Bray whom he unfairly dismissed because "she was given knowledge of things regarding his private life and he did not like it and felt the Secretary was a threat and had to go".

Said Secretary has battled for the last 3+ years for an apology and reinstatement to her job which was unfairly taken from her.

To date she has spent €26,000 in legal fees while the Church and Parishioners cough up the fees for Fr. White.

Proof that she was excellent in her job can be seen on Indymedia in a letter from previous Parish Priest Canon MacMahon who had hired the Secretary in the first instance and said reference letter was given to her just two months before the Court hearing praising her good work in the Parish.

That was 18 months after her unfair dismissal so he gave her letter to help her case.

Fr. Larry White and his legal team refused to have that letter seen or read by the Unfair Dismissal Tribunal (surely it would have damaged his case).

The Secretary won her first case before the Rights Commissioner for Fr. White not giving her any written Contract for the 3 years she worked for him in spite of him and his legal team declaring they had.

Unfortunately for them no signed contract existed or could be produced in spite of PP producing a typed one and saying it was legal but unsigned by either party (!!!)and aftrer many protests from the PP the Rights Commissioner believed the Secretary who told the truth and awarded the case to her with Fr. White being in breach of the Labour Laws regarding contract.

This can also be seen on Indymedia.

The second Unfair Dismissal case has been appealed due to the fact the Tribunal were bowing and scrapiing to the Parish Priest because he put his collar on 5 minutes before the hearing (but never normally wears one) and they also refused to issue a Witnesses Summons for a very "relevant witness" whom Fr. White did not want to appear under "any circumstances" so it was not a level playing field but a stitch up job for the hearing when the Church had the power to order that Witness Summons not be granted.

The Tribunal also refused at Fr. White and his legal teams request too disallow a recording of very relevant verbal evidence that would have thrown his case out!!!!

A BIG CAT WOULD HAVE ESCAPED FROM THE BAG HAD THE WITNESS SUMMONS BEEN GRANTED OR THE RECORDING HEARD -BUT BOTH WILL HAPPEN YET IF IS TAKES 10 MORE YEARS as the good news is that the Secretary is NEVER GIVING UP until the truth comes out.

There have been too many cover ups and lies and denials.

There is also an Equality Hearing case still pending regarding porn and sexual Harrassment in the workplace that the Secretary complained about 2 months before her dismissal but the man at the centre of things stayed in his job for a further 2 years.

Letter from FAS held by Secretary proves this as fact and said letter can also be seen on Indymedia.

The Secretary always said that the job was a vocation not just a secretarial job and it is quite disgusting now for her to hear Parishioners whom you would not normally hear swear curse the persent lady (???) in the job to high heaven for her Ignorance and general bad manners. They are treated like they should not interrupt her but that is what she is paid and there for.

They were used to being greeted with a smile and being cared about and people who treat others with such contempt are not worthy to hold the position they were just dumped into on the whim of the Hypocrite of the Year Award Winner.

He has brought the Parish to its knees since his arrival.

The cronies who surround him in all the jobs are giving the entire place a really bad name.

By the way he looks a shadow of his former self so we think the pidgeons are coming home to roost for him or will shortly. You can't get away with abuses forever.

If anyone out there has any information on a Dr. Damian Mohan Forensic Psychiatrist and his connections with the Catholic Church in Ireland can you please email clerical whispers about same to be passed on to us.

This man without a medical or psychological test, a second opinion, talking to a person's GP or seeing their lifelong medical records, can meet a stranger for 2 hours and on behalf of the Church end your working life without any form of appeal.

This is another person who plays God so our Parish Priest and himself are well matched.

Please do if you have ANY information pass it on as we will be most grateful.

Like with all the abuse cases even with the above strange way of doing things for a medical specialist the Irish Medical Council did not feel there was a case to investigate said Doctor.

Mary Harney passed letters on to HSE and others but still no satisfaction.

When the Church can get the answers it wants from ANYONE legal, medical, State, what hope has the private citizen against them.

Nothing but corruption from the top of the Church down and we sadly let them away with it but not this time this will continue for as long as it takes...................
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11 comments:

Anonymous said...

http://www.dublindiocese.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1397&Itemid=673

This link is to the Developing Parish Seminar at All Hallows on the Dublin Diocese website.

Interesting the topic THE CRISIS OF COMMITMENT. HOW IT IS HARMING THE CHURCH AND SOCIETY which will be given by the Director of Iona Institute.

One hopes that the Archbishop will have Fr. Larry White PP of Our Lady Queen of Peace Bray there in the FRONT ROW to see how he is causing part of this problem! There are those who are very committed in his Parish in Bray and who were on the Parish Pastoral Council and the Liturgy group and additionally did on a voluntary basis the Minutes for both groups for over 18 months. What happened you may ask. Fr. White who is meant to be the SHEPHARD OF HIS FLOCK in the Parish saw fit to throw a very committed Parishioner out of both of these groups.

What good is it having good and committed Parishioners in a Parish when they are NOT WANTED and ignored by the Clergy who only want their exclusive cronies in all of these Parish groups.

Why does his Grace Archbishop Diarmuid Martin not rein in the likes of these RADICAL Parish Priests who do their own thing? We would all like to know.

DID PARISH PRIEST "JUMP THE GUN"???

Similarly it looks like the Parish Priest may have slightly JUMPED THE GUN on the Church renovations as he had 2 huge big shipping containers installed in the Church grounds to store Church furniture etc., and had a temporary “Tin Box” prefab Church installed to take the Parishioners. Building was meant to have been approved long ago and due to start but what happened?? Gates have been locked for over 2 weeks with parishioners forbidden through the gates to park in the non existent BUILDING SITE. Not a sign of a Builder or piece of building equipment in spite of us all being told everything was agreed and ready to go and approved with the Diocese.

We want to now ask the question has His Grace Archbishop Diarmuid Martin finally come to his senses and decided to let us back into our beautiful Church, beautiful exactly as it stands after the roof is replaced which is the only thing that needs repair and not the desecration of the Sanctuary and Sacristy and the entire church re-carpeted which will cost a fortune and unnecessary.

We hope this is the case – why should any of us in this economic climate pay for the folly of our Parish Priest who had ideas of grandeur that are not required. We loved our Church before he came and we will love it as it is when he is gone.

Parishioners wake up, forget the basket collection, forget the dues collection, do NOT PAY FOR SOMETHING WE DO NOT WANT as most of you have said already in no uncertain terms.

This man is better suited to playing his golf than running his parish and the administration of same. Collections are dropping. Why? It is a protest to the mismanagement that has been going on for several years. It is time to clear out the rot and say enough is enough.

We want our Parish back. We who are committed to the Parish want reinstated to our Parish groups and all the cronies of the PP removed. Those who had grave injustices done to them by the Parish Priest want a sincere apology.

Anonymous said...

;;Doctor Mohan .. gave evidence in court last week in regards to Mr Connors who was declared insane at the time a resident was killed using a garden shears some 142 stab attacks into the victims body . assault took place some 12/14 months ago in an apartment complex known as mount argus situated near harolds x Dublin 6w.as a result of ''Dr Mohans '' medical /mental state of mind conclusions the court has detained Mr Connors for an indefinite period to Dundrum Mental Hospital .Mr Connors was therefore declared insane at the time of allegad assault ,

Anonymous said...

FATHER CAN YOU PLEASE PUT MESSAGE FROM ANONYMOUS ABOVE AS INTRODUCTION TO PIECE BELOW -

MAYBE SEPARATE PAGE BRAY 19 - FURTHER COMMENT ON OTHER CASE AT THE END OF THIS. THANK YOU.

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Let us hope that in this case the conclusions reached by said Dr. Mohan were in fact reached by him after "extensive" tests, checking with his GP, checking his extended medical records etc. and "NOT" just from HERESAY evidence as in another case from the likes of a prejudiced employer who just happened to be a Parish Priest in an unfair dismissal situation against a member of the laity and where said Parish Priest "NEEDED" someone to back him up so that the person he wanted to stay out of their job did not return.

The "DAMNING" report provided as a result of this HERESAY briefing of said Doctor by the Parish Priest resulted in the "victim" of the Church being thrown out of her job and her good name tarnished all of which was to cover up certain facts that Parish Priest prefered not to get out AND the fact he kept a man who had porn in employment after complaints.

We always understood it was A BREACH OF MEDICAL ETHICS for a person who was SUPPOSED TO GIVE AN INDEPENDENT IMPARTIAL ASSESSMENT OF A STRANGER NOT to meet said stranger first without any preconceived ideas about them and make their judgment based on that.

We were assured at the outset that the Parish Priest did not know the person doing the assessment. However prior to the "victim" having her assessment the Parish Priest DID KNOW HIM because he met and gave him a briefing which Dr. Mohan took and we have a copy of 2 pages in all so he had this information and had preconceived ideas about the person prior to her assessment. He met the Parish Priest knowing he was in a serious employment dispute with the person being assessed and that the Parish Priest was the one paying his fees!!!!!

Dr. Mohan admitted under oath that MAYBE in hindsight it would have been better IF he had spoken to the victim's GP of 35 years standing and checked her medical records "BEFORE" he wrote his DAMNING report but he still would not admit that MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, he made a mistake in his quick judgment) as medical personnel have stated to the "victim" since it would have been CAREER SUICIDE for him to go back on this diagnosis. Interesting too when said victim's GP requested an independent diagnosis from Dr. Mohan's Colleague in Dundrum Dr. Harry Kennedy he refused to see the victim saying leave the law to the lawyers. In other words he did not want to maybe have to dispute the HORRIFIC REPORT or question of even discredit it. As these two men are the top Forensic Psychiatrists in the country naturally enough it is not the done thing to check out each others work - we saw how all those women had their wombs removed for years because no medical professional would question things as to maybe something was VERY wrong in what was going on.

One would have to ask why the Parish Priest and Church paid for a man of his standing to do a simple assessment for a possible return to work when "victim" agreed to go to a Psychologist in order to get the job back. There is a big difference in what was agreed and what happened going to the Forensic Psychiatrist but when one has nothing to hide and is just going to tell the truth there should have been no problem with the assessment. Unfortunately it ended up as the victim walking into THE MOUTH OF HELL.

Interesting too that when Dr. Mohan replied to queries a CC of his letter was being sent to his medical insurers in UK - maybe just in case there was going to be a claim against him???

One would ask the Church why did they choose and pay a Forensic Psychiatrist who is mainly responsible for hardened criminals and murderers who are locked up sometimes against their will in Dundrum Mental Hospital and formerly of Broadmoor to do a regular work return assessment.

How can a normal hard working Secretary be in her job for over 4 years one day, the next day loses favour with her employer and be turfed out of her job while on two weeks annual holidays and then asked to go and have such an assessment in order to get her job back???? There was never a complaint about her work and there is verbal evidence from said employer the Parish Priest telling his best FEMALE friend that the Secretary "WAS A HIGHLY DEDICATED SECRETARY" when FEMALE FRIEND said to him "AREN'T YOU LUCKY TO HAVE SUCH A GOOD SECRETARY" - (he corrected her by saying HIGHLY DEDICATED rather than just GOOD) but the Parish Priest refused this verbal evidence IN HIS OWN VOICE to be played at the hearing. WHY? Because it would prove the whole thing was a set up and make a mockery of the case?

Why would the Medical Council not investigate how the Report could be given

WITHOUT consultation with GP,

NOT checking 35 years of medical records,

NOT doing any kind of medical Tests

NOT doing any psychological tests,

NOT asking a colleague for a second opinion,

NOT asking the "Victim" to even return for a second meeting to make sure the diagnosis at the end of a 2 hour casual chat was correct??????

All of the above in light of the seriousness of the DAMNING REPORT he intended to write which would change the "victims" life forever.

WERE ALL OF THE ABOVE PROPER PROCEDURES IGNORED

Because the Parish Priest and the Church were paying him and NEEDED a specific report to vindicate what they had ALREADY DONE???

Was he under pressure to produce a SPECIFIC REPORT to his Paymasters????

WHY do those who have POWER AND ENDLESS MONEY BEHIND THEM like the Church, Medical profession, their Lawyers have the RIGHT to

NOT have an investigation into this and therefore get away with it without question of the POSSIBILITY there was a MISTAKE?

IS THIS A MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE???????

Why should the "Victim" of the Parish Priest in this case lose her job?

Her good name?

Her right to remain in all her Church groups where she had been for years?

Her right to be a Special Minister of the Eucharist?????

Why has the "Victim" on occasion been told in the Church to move back some rows seats were reserved when they were not and thus be belittled in front of other Parishioners???????

Why is said "Victim" treated like a LEPER in her own Parish when once every 7 weeks she serves tea after Mass with 2 other ladies and the PP talks to the other 2 ladies standing next to her and ignores her in front of entire Parish and REFUSES to take a coffee but asks one of the other ladies to make him one??????????

Is that both the height of ignorance and UNCHRISTIAN for the Parish Priest to do that to ANY of his Parishioners??????????

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As comment to contribution earlier about recent verdict on the other case referred to by last contributor ~ friends have said to see said Doctor on the news two days recently coming out of Court after such a horrific hearing it did not really instil much confidence in us to see said Doctor smiling and grinning ear to ear after listening to such horrors of the killing. It was a bit "sick" to be honest!

Anonymous said...

May i suggest that your poster of such detailed revelations use her xperience of ''Dr. Mohan'' and contact the D.P.P. AND SEE WHAT GROUNDS THE ABOVE STORY MAY HAVE ON THE RULING GIVEN ON BEHALF OF MR CONNORS BY THE JUDGE OF THE DAY . FURTHER THAN THAT I CANNOY COMMENT BUT WOULD URGE ''ANONYMOUS'' TO FOLLOW MY ADVISE .

Anonymous said...

Will take your advice and do so.

God alone knows how this Doctor (sic!) reaches his diagnosis when none of the above were done in the case described. It makes a mockery of his profession.

Having said that APPEALS to the Medical Council to have the diagnosis and Dr. Mohan investigated resulted in them writing to him and him in turn replying to them upholding his diagnosis and they JUST TOOK HIS WORD FOR IT. We feel it was uncaring and dishonest of the Irish Medical Council not to have investigated his methods of neglect in getting medical information and doing tests prior to giving diagnosis that ruined a life. The person in question spent 7 months going to public services within the HSE so there was no paymaster to give a prejudiced verdict and had the psychological tests that should have been done that you cannot fake and got a clean bill of health. There were intensive interviews and other things done all of which brought the Senior Psychologist to the conclusion Dr. Mohan's diagnosis was an incorrect one. The persons GP has also written a letter saying Dr. Mohan never consulted him prior to the diagnosis or saw medical records and in his opinion his long term patient at that practice for 35 years was misdiagnosed and he did not agree with the diagnosis given by Dr. Mohan. Another HSE Doctor who was in Newcastle and also interviewed said lady twice for long assessment talks and would have been the one Dr. Mohan said should treat and drug her. He also said that he could not find any sign of the diagnosis and therefore could not admit and treat a person to his hospital when he could not find an illness. Had the recommendation of Dr. Mohan been followed said lady would have gone to hospital to be drugged up to her eyeballs and treated for things she did not have and ended up a vegetable not even knowing her name.

That is why it is such a miscarriage of justice that the Medical Council refused to investigate the diagnosis which cost this lady everything her job her rights in the Church etc.

Church Barrister refused to admit these 3 clearance letters into evidence at the Unfair Dismissal hearing but the Senior Psychologist gave lengthy evidence in her favour but was belittled by Dr. Mohan saying he had the senior qualifications.

The bottom line Dr. Mohan and the Irish Medical Council have the money to fight but the ordinary person with a mortgage and now unemployed does not so they can walk all over you.

The corruption within the Church and the medical profession is sickening.

Talking of the D.P.P. the Parish Priest in this case had local Gardai take finger prints and DNA as a method of harrassment to the ex employee and her file was informed to her being prepared for the D.P.P. the Gardai informed her. That threat has hung over her for 3 years while all the Parish Priests cronies have sang like canaries to build up said file to favour him.

Is all of this legal in a civilised society.

We just wish there was someone out there with money to take up this case and get to the bottom of it but unless we win the lotto we just have to give it publicity if nothing else.

In the meantime Dr. Mohan can come out of court grinning to the cameras and the Parish Priest can do the same walking around his parish like a Peacock.

Thank you for your interest.

Anonymous said...

anonymouse would be in a better position to end her feud with her mind , she has made new best friends ,a close friend of the church she refers to . the woman she claims now as her friend should be treated with the same deadly caution as white. after all anonymous has been put through by white ,he has now sent in a friend of the church (sic) whose main aim is to aquire as much information as possible so as to furthwer demean anonymous.
karma is at work .

Margaret said...

Anonymous above thinks I have somehow become best friends with his divorced wife whom I have to my knowledge never set eyes on never mind spoken to.

Nobody from the Church has befriended me I am still the Leper, the Outcast and just go to Mass and mind my own business, walk in alone and out the same way. I will say hello to those who still say hello to me and those who ignore the greeting I have given up on as life is too short to worry about their smallmindedness.

Anonymous said...

NOBODY U SAY HAS BEFRIENDED YOU ,THAT IS A BLATANT LIE ON YOUR RECORD , YOU KNOW THE EFFORT WE HERE IN DUBLIN UNDERWENT IN ORDER THAT WHITE BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE AND BANISHED FROM THE QUEEN OF PEACE CHURCH, YOU KNOW ONLY TOO WELL THAT WHEN WHITE WAS RAN OUT OF THE CHURCH MENTIONED CIRCA JULY 2008 U SOMEHOW MISSED HIM AND IN FACT AWAITED WHITES RETURN IN DECEMBER 2008 WHERE YOU WERE ONCE AGAIN REBUFFED BY WHITE AND BASICALLY TOLD TO EFF OFF IN BODY LANGUAGE TERMS OF COURSE, YOU BEGAN TO INSULT MY PERSON ON THE INDYMEDIA SITE WHICH SHOWS THAT IN FACT YOU ARE A USER OF GOOD GENUINE PEOPLE WHO UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU HAVE GOTTEN FED UP WITH YOUR CONSTANT ANTICS , U THREW YOUR HUSBAND ASIDE AND PRIOR TO DOING SO U WENT AND SPOKE AT LENGTH TO WHITE IN THE HOPE THAT WHITE WOULD ADVISE YOU OF UR SITUATION ,BUT WHAT YOU WERE ACTUALLY DOING WAS LOOKING FOR SYMPATHY FROM WHITE AND U USED THE MEETING IN A WAY TO CULTIVATE SOME FORM OF EXTREME RELATIONSHIP WHICH IN FACT BACKFIRED ON YOU , U STILL EMBARASS YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY WITH YOUR SPEND OF UP TO 26K IN LEGAL FEES JUST TO CLEAR YOUR NAME ,IN FACT WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS SO OBVIOUS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND COULD NOT BE FAR AWAY FROM A SCENE FROM THE CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED FILM OF ''THE THORN BIRDS'' . YOU SAY YOU ARE ABOVE SIN AND YET YOU WOULD FREELY CONVERSE WITH CONVICTED A EMBEZZLER WHO IN FACT HAS A SCAM IN OPERATION WITHIN VILLA PACIS , AND WHO IS ALSO INVOLVED WITH A CHARITY SHOP SITUATED IN BRAY TOWN , LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND TELL US ON CLERICAL WHISPERS WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU DO SO ,DOUBLE STANDARDS ARE EVERYWHERE AND APPLY TO THE CUTE HOORS IN OUR SOCIETY ,

Anonymous said...

There it is ,in full cloak and dagger shawl with the oul face only the virgin mary would feed , he is in fine company with a convicted embezzler in tow as well as ''The Alcoholic whore of the year ( 1985)''award of which was earned in Hollands in front of 3 of her children .White seems to languish at the bottom of the pit with the likes of career social criminals such as mentioned . is it any wonder the church (s) are empty to bare today with the likes of human excrement spreading thru the grounds of the places we once held dear to our hearts , let them eat cake is what that grey headed old badger is actually saying . IF I HAD MY WAY ,IF ONLY ,ENOUGH SAID , LEAVE HIM AND HIS TYPE TO GOD .

Anonymous said...

By the way, if you decide to include the ground of "imputed disability" (ie "imputed erotomania") in your claim to the Equality Tribunal, it is likely that the opposing party will object to that on the basis that you are outside the six month time limit for making such a claim. You can counter this objection by citing a previous Equality Tribunal determination according to which the scope of an investigation should not be limited by the content of the original claim form. In Equality Tribunal case DEC-E2006-012 Equality Officer Gerardine Coyle stated in her Conclusions, paragraph 4.4: ‘In Long and Powers Supermarket & Others (5) Mr Justice Johnson held that there is an obligation on the Equality Officer to examine all aspects of the claim whether or not they have been referred in the original referral form.’

Welshmann 419 said...

If you are to go into an interview with Mr Mohan be sure to record it all (covertly is best so that you may prove points when his report is typed up). A quality digital dictaphone can be bought from Argos for about £40. Get one which is PC compatible, you can then conveniently and securely store the recording on your computer for as long as necessary. Keep a healthy mistrust of his M.O. and motives to protect yourself and your family. This is an opinion and would best be judged along with other points you may comprehend.